Yeah. :tweetz:

7M's are better :respekt:
eric

respect your elders... 7m for sho... except for times where you want to autocross

respect your elders... 7m for sho... except for times where you want to autocross

7M+ 4.30's = auto X ownage.

for a MK3 anyway.

i hope you guys aren't going to start a thread to argue why the 7m is better than the 1jz or visa versa :eusa_naug

power wise the 7m will all ways be better in less you turn the 2.5 in t0 a 3 liter

2j or 7m for me

2jz is better!

funny how there is all this 7m support in a swap topic.i thought the 7m was factory installed in a mkIII.oh shit maybe i'm in the mkII section.LOL

power wise the 7m will all ways be better in less you turn the 2.5 in t0 a 3 liter



i dont believe that.

maybe you should tell that it to nissan. do you also think the VG30 is better than an RB26 because its larger in displacement?

hey joe nice to see some 1jz support

1jz4me kthx

1jz4me kthx

1jz4u
7M4me
ALL SUPRA ENGINES NEED :respekt: WHEN IT IS NEEDED no matter what kind of engine it is.

We don't need one of those 7M vs. 1jz or 2jz is better than all kind of threads we should be tired of those kind of threads ;)

but the 1J vs 7M threads are so fun.:iono: every supra forum needs one:lol:

but the 1J vs 7M threads are so fun.:iono: every supra forum needs one:lol:

Yeah they are kinda fun when you think about it just to see why this person thinks the 7M is better then the 1J or the 1J is better then the 7M. No matter what engine it is each one has its ups & downs. :crazy01:

7M is good, 1JZ is good, 2JZ is good, the only bad thing is Turbo Joe.

:(........

I am finishing a 1jz swap, but I need pics or references or info on loose ends.
I have a 12 prong female plug about 1 and a quarter by 1 and a quarter, its 3 inches from the igniter, please help. Also I want to eliminate all the useless vacuum hoses and such I can so any tips would be helpful. Also I have the two black wires going from the alternator, one goes to the 100 amp fuse but the other one was cut and I can't remember where it goes, any clues?

I am finishing a 1jz swap, but I need pics or references or info on loose ends.
I have a 12 prong female plug about 1 and a quarter by 1 and a quarter, its 3 inches from the igniter, please help. Also I want to eliminate all the useless vacuum hoses and such I can so any tips would be helpful. Also I have the two black wires going from the alternator, one goes to the 100 amp fuse but the other one was cut and I can't remember where it goes, any clues?
hopefully this helps you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/Picture_1053.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/Picture_1057.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/Picture_1062.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/DSCF2138Custom.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/Picture_1058.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/Picture_1075.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/Turbo-Joe/Picture_1074.jpg

:snork_ham

1jz4u
7M4me
ALL SUPRA ENGINES NEED :respekt: WHEN IT IS NEEDED no matter what kind of engine it is.

We don't need one of those 7M vs. 1jz or 2jz is better than all kind of threads we should be tired of those kind of threads ;)

Now I didn't say there was anything wrong with the 7m, I'm just going with the 1jz. Personal preference. I'm also starting with an empty shell..

Now I didn't say there was anything wrong with the 7m, I'm just going with the 1jz. Personal preference. I'm also starting with an empty shell..

That's cool but you know it will proably start soon though 7m is better no 1jz is better. I don't care what supra engine it is 7m, 1jz, 2jz as long as I can make more pwr i'm fine with it

Got some nice looking pics of the 1jz there Turbo-Joe

This is what I think of Turbo-Joe and his 1JZ :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/Loki89t/DSC01269.jpg

hahaha tahts f*cked up.....funny...but still f*cked up, i have my respect for everyone in this forum...untill someone makes fun of my ride :wub:

haha. atlease your not knockin on me :)
cause i'm reppin the 1jz with joe :headbang:

I have nothing against the 1JZ, I hope to have one someday. I just don't like Joe and his 1JZ :lol:

it took so long to get where it is but i have plenty of goodies for it, in fact it took so long that I was able to collect the j-spec 2jz injectors an a-f controller a set of turbo's (two of the wrx sti turbo's made by IHI) a 600 torque clutch and a small host of other goodies, everything shoots for a minimum of 500 at the crank but the turbos are good for 750, just will need bigger injectors stronger clutch and another walbro. Hehehe, still looks factory except the exhaust. Go sleeper gooooooo......

I have nothing against the 1JZ, I hope to have one someday. I just don't like Joe and his 1JZ :lol:
youre such a hater :eusa_hand

it took so long to get where it is but i have plenty of goodies for it, in fact it took so long that I was able to collect the j-spec 2jz injectors an a-f controller a set of turbo's (two of the wrx sti turbo's made by IHI) a 600 torque clutch and a small host of other goodies, everything shoots for a minimum of 500 at the crank but the turbos are good for 750, just will need bigger injectors stronger clutch and another walbro. Hehehe, still looks factory except the exhaust. Go sleeper gooooooo......


Right on man. Did you figure out where that plug goes?

youre such a hater :eusa_hand


As I said before, I don't hate :lol:

i hate









joe

i hate









joe



There is a secret club, we have jackets :snork_tan

There is a secret club, we have jackets :snork_tan

Got mine today Loki, Thanks!!!

you guys are funny:lol:

There is a secret club, we have jackets :snork_tan

Don't think there is a 1jz with that club

Don't think there is a 1jz with that club


Everyone except for Joe is allowed in the club :lol: doesn't matter what you have.

Too bad Joe I guess you will be in a club all by yourself :laughabov

haha, woot! so whens my jacket comin in? :snork_lac

I am finishing a 1jz swap, but I need pics or references or info on loose ends.
I have a 12 prong female plug about 1 and a quarter by 1 and a quarter, its 3 inches from the igniter, please help. Also I want to eliminate all the useless vacuum hoses and such I can so any tips would be helpful. Also I have the two black wires going from the alternator, one goes to the 100 amp fuse but the other one was cut and I can't remember where it goes, any clues?
the 12 pin(i think its ea2 plug)near the ignitor has to be mated with the c-1(6 pin coming off fuse box) plug to power the efi and you also mate it with the round alternator plug.ea-2 pin1 to c-1 pin1,ea-2 pin2 to c-1 pin2,ea-2 pin5 to c-1 pin4,ea-2 pin11 to alt pin1(white wire),ea-2 pin11 to alt. pin2(yellow green)ea-2 pin12 to alt pin3(black yellow)
hope that helps,if you haven't figured it out already
keith

LOL

ya'll forgetting the formiddable (sp?) 1.5jz ;)

but i keep giving the owner arseholes bout it.....

"i know... when you grew up, you wanted to be a 3L & single turbo... so you actually wanted to be a 7m all along"

:happydanc

"i know... when you grew up, you wanted to be a 3L & single turbo... so you actually wanted to be a 7m all along"

:happydanc


Nice one Suze :lol:

man, 7M's own faces. you cant make a 1jz sound like a diesel dump truck with just an open downpipe. the damn 1jz sounds like a baby MKIV in the mid range, but just too brash in the top end.

i like the 1jz for its revviness, itd be great for drifting just because of the redline. everyone abandons the 7M and never gives it any real credit. everyone assumes you need a JZ if you want to make "real" power. we will see what i can get out of a 7M with a T88... i use the 7M haters as inspiraters!

btw, the square plug by the ignitor IS the EA2 connector for the Fuse box. technically, you can swap the 1jz fuse box into the MA70. several guys have done it. i couldnt figure it out... so i did the splice work. i spliced in the C1 connector, transferred over the Hydrofan thermistor harness, and spliced in the altnerator plug. the other thing you have to do is extend the 2 10ga alternator power cables that used to bolt to the stock 7M alternator. extend them like 6' or something crazy like that so that you can affix the power cables from the fuse box, run them across the radiator core support, and around the passengerside, down the fender skirt and bolt it to the 1jz alternator.

if you still have the front clip, you can scavenge the STOCK alternator power cables and hydrofan thermistor harness and transfer it onto you car like i did. it makes it so much easier and a factory appearance.

hold on flubby :P i like the sound of my 1J alot more than i did my 7M. and i prefer it over the 2J sound too. preference is all it is

7M with an open down pipe does sound good, 2JZ sounds good to but i have'nt heard one with open down pipe though and as far as the 1JZ I have'nt heard one of those at all only seen them in person at nopi in some Lexus SC's.
Does anybody know what kind of pwr the 1.5JZ can make? Just wondering cause I have not seen a dyno chart of a 1JZ in the 600hp range yet. Let me know if i'm wrong all you 1JZ owners on here

i don't liek the 2j sounds at all i liek the 7m never herd 1j thou

i ran my car open DP once. its too damn loud though. i didnt really like the sound either. the power was nice, but id ratehr sacrifice the bit of power to have the nicer quieter sound through the catback

i like the sound of a 1jz, 2jz, and teh 7m...theyre all distinct in their own way, though ive never owned a 2jz before, i give respect to a 7m...that wut i started off with, but i swapped to a 1jz because i was gettin too many problems with the 7m....everything seemed to leak...so i just sold the block and i had enough to help me pay off for a 1jz swap..i still give credit to the 7m but i still prefer the 1jz...to me it seems a little smoother going through teh powerband

Ok. This settles it. "Engine Fan Coolent"


That makes 1jzs ghey.
No way around it.

lol:lol: hydro fan owns all

werd :moon:

hydro fans to own faces. they pull more CFM than electric gimmicks.

the 1jz sounds good in the mid range. it definitly has a 2jz sound. but, in the high end, it sounds yucky. we will see how it sounds with a single. STS (Single turbo supras) sound wicked cool. way better than the stock twins. stock twins with an open DP sound like Ass.

7M's sound like dumptrucks with Defcon style downpipes and no exhaust. on my last car, the DP broke off after the flex, so it was open elbow. the turbine whistle that the car made was ridiculously loud, and awesome. the 7M sound is much deeper and mellow, the 1jz is higher pitched and more raspy in comparison. the 2jz is somehwere between and has a bottle-ish sound... at least, on stock twins. the STS's sound like sport bikes, freakin awesome.

i have a single turbo on my 1jz...ur right though teh single sounds kind of like a sport bike top end kinda gets louder but its a smooth sound, probably will depend on what exhaust you have on it...though i was thinking about converting it back to twin...but upgraded turbos...might switch back to sequential...not sure yet

Hopefully someone can answer this, installation of the tranny was farely easy considering one person did it (me), but the easiest part was supposed to be the installation of the driveshaft, insert and bolt-up right? Mine only went in half way and stopped, is there something I don't know about? I know the tranny is sensative but I put alot of leverage on it. But the first half went in by hand and then stopped.

I guess this is another reply. I read the help you guys gave me, I did get a front clip but the harness was partially cut because it split and went to the back. But if what I am reading is correct I wont have to many problems. I routed the 10 gauge wire from the alt to the fuse box and I have a flex- alite fan so what other pins do I need?

if you mean that your tranny will not fully seat against the block, then that is most likely because the input shaft is not inserting into the pilot bearing in the crank... assuming that you are doing a 5sp car. if its automatic, then the torque converter is probably not fully engaging into the input shaft of the tranny. the tranny needs to be pulled back and the torque converter should be spun around untill it will fully seat onto the input shaft.

as far as your wiring, im not sure what wiring you cut. when you say "goes to the back", that would have to be the main harness that goes to the ECU. those are the only wires that "Go to the back". the wires that go to the front are for the fusebox. if your main harness is cut where it goes to the back, and thru the firewall, you are ****ed.... to put it gently.

damn son...yea..wut chris said...he got to the reply first...but yea not sure when u say ur harness is partially cut and split going to the back... u might have to rephrase...or post some pics...but eveything should pretty much be a bolt on for the transmission..in my opinion the harness is a bitch...no matter how you look at it...

The tranny was fully installed but the driveshaft won't go all the way in. wtf?

One more thing, I didn't actually cut any wires, infact when I gutted the front cut I cut up the fenders so I would have every possible wire in as best condition possible, so I can only assume that it went towards the rear of the car because I even stripped the dash completely. It was so bare that my local metal recycler classified it as a solid metal with the exception of the paint so I got more than just scrap steel prices.

yeah, i stripped every bolt, hinge, clip, trim and wire that i could off the clip. we even cut it down the center into 2 halves, had the subframe unbolted, and the control arms and hubs and shit. the fenders and hood were off.

ive never seen a drveshaft that wont go all the way in. are you sure there isnt somethng inside the yoke preventing it from inserting fully? can you get a pic of the driveshaft entering the tranny so we can see exactly how much further it has to go in? when its fully inserted, there is usually close to 1" of space between the end of the yoke and the beginning of the tailshaft.

you could still see about a half an inch of the male end of the driveshaft, I'm not even sure it made it half way now that I think about it. Also I browsed this site a couple of weeks ago and found a link to a great website with all the pin diagrams and everything, any clues?

diagrams for the 1jz can be found at 1jz-gte.us

can you take a pic your driveshaft fitment so we can see exactly what youer working with? it doesnt sound like there is a real fitment problem... seems ok as of now. but, i havent been under an MK3 in a while.